Futureproofing

I was interviewed about the future of art for BBC Radio 4's Futureproofing (broadcast 18 January 2017, repeated on 21 January). The programme as a whole seems a bit lost (this is radio: why spend so long in that dreadful installation in Singapore?) and there are better episodes (e.g. the one on Intimacy), but you can hear me chip in at around 23 mins.